tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post7548445540044470915..comments2024-03-28T03:30:37.681-04:00Comments on It's Not Part of the Game...: Fighters Hurt Their TeamsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422548471006288988noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-73518557860068360472012-06-23T16:44:20.603-04:002012-06-23T16:44:20.603-04:00explain how ncaa div 1 has almost eliminated fight...explain how ncaa div 1 has almost eliminated fighting,explain why there is a 90% decrease in fighting during the playoffs and even more of a decrease during the actuual cup series,Brandon you have aright to your opinion but its just wrong on so many levels...and believe me fighting will be banned eventually in the nhl,and it wont be the demise of a great game it will make it better!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-89842089360342302422012-06-23T16:36:59.412-04:002012-06-23T16:36:59.412-04:00absolutely right on Paulabsolutely right on PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-85128561235053689282012-06-23T16:35:09.894-04:002012-06-23T16:35:09.894-04:00first of all ive played hockey at a very high leve...first of all ive played hockey at a very high level. that said the reason hockey players are 99% for fighting is the same reason players in the 60s were 99%against helmets wich is an illogical macho/stupidity to say that hockey players are the athletes least likely to be disciplined enough to control their behavior is ridiculous .playing ncaa div 1 hockey was the highest level i played and fighting is almost non-existant at that level as well as international hockey...the best hockey game ive watched in the past few years was the olympic gold medal game between usa and canada,and even though both teams had a real and palpable hate on for each other no real fighting occurred and was as exciting a game as you could hope for...your antiquated view of hockey is out dated and the macho rhetoric is absurdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-1241711523867605812012-06-23T16:16:03.398-04:002012-06-23T16:16:03.398-04:00for every lucic or prust theres a john scott or ri...for every lucic or prust theres a john scott or rinaldo who can barely play the gameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-15424892220532007052012-05-29T15:33:23.682-04:002012-05-29T15:33:23.682-04:00Brandon, you are good man!
Please, speak more. :)Brandon, you are good man!<br />Please, speak more. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-66464364074412556252012-05-27T12:34:40.725-04:002012-05-27T12:34:40.725-04:00I played in the states in an independent junior le...I played in the states in an independent junior league i left that league to play in the mjhl. And a review of the officiating wouldnt have done anything. As i said the officials got the calls right. Players were kicked out, given game misconducts and nothing deturred their actions. Even the league stepped in and suspended kids and there were more players just like that waiting. <br /><br />Paul, I can understand your not wanting fighting in the game i dont go out of my way to call people names if they dont believe and i listen to what they have to say. But i find it very difficult for me to take what you say serious when you haven't played the game at a level where you see fighting makes the game more honest. <br /><br />Also you're calling elite players like Kovalchuk, and Richards undisiplinced? they have a pretty decent amount of fights, and they fight for a reason. I hate the goon staged fights ill always hate that i find it boring, but there is honestly a reason for a fight to happen every now and then.Brandon Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03580220036152949416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-10994294253405728562012-05-26T22:27:28.569-04:002012-05-26T22:27:28.569-04:00I haven't played Junior A hockey and yes I hav...I haven't played Junior A hockey and yes I have seen the NHL anonymous polls that show support to keep fighting in the game.<br /><br />I have question for you. Which Junior A league did you play in that does not allow fighting? All Junior A leagues allow fighting, although a ban is being discussed this year by Hockey Canada and CHL. <br /><br />As for the rest of your example, I think you've done a great job of explaining why fighting doesn't belong in the game. A review of officiating would solve most of the issues detailed above. If you love hockey, you wouldn't want an emotional, biased and undisciplined player enforcing the game.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422548471006288988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-24552598498969904652012-05-26T17:29:40.144-04:002012-05-26T17:29:40.144-04:00Exucse Me Paul is it? I have a few questions for y...Exucse Me Paul is it? I have a few questions for you. One. Have you seen the recent NHL player polls of the last three years where 99 percent of players want to keep fighting in the game? And my second is have you ever played serious competitive hockey? <br /> I'm talking about Junior A hockey or above because Paul i have. And i have also played in two different Junior A leagues one that allowed fighting and one that did not. Can you guess which was the safer one to play in? <br />I'll answer it was the one that allowed fighting. There are goons out there that ruin hockey, and it's not the goons that fight. It's the ones that are huge can skate a little and are out there to hurt people. Theyre out there to hurt with leg checks, hits from behind, spears, etc. A team in this league was full of these players. They injured at least two kids a night, never once getting a suspension. Game ejections yet but the damage had been done. Finally team brought in a fighter and beat a kid in a fair fight the kid he beat left the goon team because he was actually scared to get hit in a fight again. This kid that left injured 2 kids on my team that year. The kid who got in a fight five game suspension. Tell me how is that fair and tell me how that fighter hurt that team?<br /><br />Let me five you a second example of the fight allowed league. A kid hit me from behind gave me a concussion i missed a month. My first game back i asked his captain to ask his player if he wanted to go? The kid said yes we went, i won it was over. I can honestly tell you that if he didnt say yes. I would have went after him and tried to hurt him for the month he cost me. Most hockey players feel that same way. <br /><br />The nature of the game breeds fighting and playing at the next level one would know that. Your comments of the game make me feel you're as far off the ice as the jumbotron.Brandon Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03580220036152949416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-17807583283295805062012-05-26T16:24:50.889-04:002012-05-26T16:24:50.889-04:00Some of the best & most exciting hockey was al...Some of the best & most exciting hockey was also played in the 70s. You must also take into account that in the 70s, the "typical" fighter was also a very decent hockey player. Terry O'Reilly, Schultz, Gilles etc.. <br /><br />Environics surveys are great and all, but who is to say who the 1000 people were or are? You're just as likely to get a 27% of people who dislike fighting the next time out. <br /><br />Instigator rule should go, bring back the softer equipment, cut down the number of teams & games. It certainly would make for better hockey, and you would still have room for guys like Lucic, Prust, Simmonds etc.. that can fight & play. It is an aggressive game, and fighting is one element of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-57820906734912249622012-05-25T08:09:04.012-04:002012-05-25T08:09:04.012-04:00Interesting comment, given the fact that concussio...Interesting comment, given the fact that concussions were not part of the article. But to answer the question, according to NHL stats there were 3 players who suffered concussions from fighting this year. About 4% of all concussions are due to dropping the gloves based on numbers released at the winter meetings. But if you combine fights and hits, fights make up less than 1% of all contact. Therefore you are 4 times more likely to suffer head trauma in a fight versus a hockey hit. So an illegal act, remember it is against the rules, has a far greater risk of concussion but for some reason is tolerated by a league that is focused on player safety.<br /><br />And removing the instigator rule won't make the game safer, it just allows players to take more revenge and brings back the goon era. The late 70's and 80's was full of cheap shots and violence at a time when fights were at their peak and there was no instigator rule. The enforcers didn't stop anything and hockey was regularly interrupted by brawls. Read my post on that "Magical Time Before the Instigator Rule" - http://itsnotpartofthegame.blogspot.ca/2012/05/magical-time-before-instigator-rule.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422548471006288988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-3407827594503834202012-05-25T02:22:57.152-04:002012-05-25T02:22:57.152-04:00How many players picked up a concussion from fight...How many players picked up a concussion from fighting this year? You want players to stop getting hurt make pads smaller and softer protect the players more that way. Remove the instigator and injuries go down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692148900807779.post-62891475118550264792012-05-24T10:35:07.681-04:002012-05-24T10:35:07.681-04:00And in today's Globe and Mail, there is an art...And in today's Globe and Mail, there is an article (May 24, Page 1, below the fold), by Roy MacGregor about a recent survey by researcher Environics. The online survey of over 1000 Canadians showed an increase in the interest in hockey. Nine out of 10 surveyed said they would accept a change in the game if it means fewer concussions and head injuries. And another key finding: 72% of Canadians are in favour of a ban on fighting.Ron Mitchellnoreply@blogger.com